Brian Flores files discrimination lawsuit against Giants, Dolphins and the NFL.

Originally posted by UnbanDrewK:

Originally posted by miked1978:
i guess teams would be smart to interview minorities first and then the white guy.

If team A loves a coaching prospect and that guy is white are they racist at that point? They interview him first and it goes as expected are they racist then? At what point are they racists?

And just how racist is the Miami owner who hired you to be head coach 3 years ago?

Despite being 58% of the United States population, non-Hispanic Whites account for just 2 running back or cornerback roster spots in the NFL.

With respect to racial equity, I demand affirmative action a la the Rooney Rule for teams intent on adding running backs or corners to their team. They must conduct a token tryout for a White player before signing or drafting a CB or RB.

Otherwise they are to be cancelled for being rayciss

You’re not thinking hard enough (which is rather common with particular groups you may or may not belong to).

First, I’ll go with the assumption that Black athletes have a slight advantage on land sports (and for the same reasons that advantage Black people in land sports, such as center of mass location, White athletes would have advantages in sports like swimming). There is some weak anecdotal evidence regarding this, but it’s not set in stone afaik. Still, let’s follow the logic if it’s true.

Assuming that’s true, Black athletes will be more common in athletically demanding positions such as running back due to physical merit, which is brought about by natural advantages. What does that do to the pool of coaches? It means a much greater percentage of the pool of coaches will be White — White athletes whose NFL dreams failed to come to fruition (for example, perhaps guys like Kyle Shanahan, who was a WR in college). And thus, since the POOL ITSELF is mostly White, the statistics favor more White coaches.

But this isn’t because of anything thing Black coaches lack, other than numbers themselves.

So, while ATHLETES at certain positions being mostly Black is DUE TO MERIT, it is NOT the case that few coaches being Black is due to a lack of ability.
(and if you’re so far gone you want to argue that White people evolved to be smarter, allow me to point out that that is COMPLETELY lDIOTIC due to the fact that humans are social creatures, which means any geniuses in a group with intellectual advantages will be no more likely to breed than other members of the group. Whatever genius invention or technique he finds, the rest of the group will benefit from it. Once humans developed complex language, LOOKING HOT became FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more important than being smart in terms of selective advantages over other members of the group)


Second, the other issue is that people are more likely to hire others they know, or feel more comfortable around. Now, I’ll just ignore implicit bias for this, and simply stick to nepotism. Even you cannot deny that coaching candidates head coaches or owners KNOW are more likely to get serious consideration than coaching candidates they don’t. That’s an obvious fact. This is NOT inherently related to race, as is shown by Kyle Shanahan two years in a row giving coaches that are “free draft pick” quality in terms of their racial heritage. And he just hired Anthony Lynn (who Kyle knew as a kid on the Denver Broncos), who is going to be a head coach again, not to mention Demeco Ryans. WHO YOU KNOW matters.

And which head coach candidates do the NFL owners, and the White head coaches know? Mostly White head coaches. There are exceptions, but again, in this case the pool of coaching candidates with the advantage of knowing the right people are mostly White.


So, we have two REAL situations where explicit or even implicit racism may not play big roles, but the racial disparity still occurs, and it has NOTHING to do with the qualifications of the candidates themselves.

THAT is why the NFL has tried to utilize the Rooney Rule. There are potentially better ideas out there, and I’m sure the NFL is looking at them.

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